The following is a back and forth I was having this moring with a group of friends on the state of comics today. It started with a link to some info about the upcoming DC Final Crisis mega event and went from there.
Joshua “I’m too cool for an internet handle” Izzo – customizing genius and all around awesome guy
Matt “Iron-Cow” Cauley – customizing mastermind and pusher of Banes in trenchcoats
Pierre “Airmax” Kalenzaga – champion procrastinator and guy who writes this blog
Steve “Anubis8″ Morrissey – Flash superfan and, from what I hear, player of a mean guitar
Steve “SWASS!” Walden – customizing bad @$$ mofo mama-jamma and dropper of comedy genius
Anubis8: – http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20198166,00.html
SWASS! – how interesting…really like the omega symbol
Anubis8 – Agreed
Airmax – Huh, I’m not much of a DC guy, but I might check this out. Really like
that Darkseid redesign. And I’d forgotten how good of an artist JG Jones is!
Izzo – It’s been a damn long time since I’ve read any mainstream DC or Marvel
books. I was always a fan of the big summer cross-over
events….Infinity War, Atlantis Attacks…
But this new universe of multi-year, multi-title, multi-earth-shattering
whatever seems REALLY tired and hard to follow.
I know that every once in a while a book needs to mess around with the
stats quo, but think about comics from the 50′s – 70′s. They plodded
along, telling fantastic stories with insanely good art….and every
issue was relatively self contained.
Now, comics are self-referential and only talking to the same audience
that really has been buying them forever….I just can’t get into it.
I’m sure there are some stellar things happening in some of these books,
but it’s just too much….
Iron-Cow – Sounds like an awfully Skrully thing to say… GET ‘EM, boys!!!
Airmax – But that’s the thing, the only people who are buying comics are the
same people who have been buying them for the past 20+ years. I just
can’t imagine kids today getting into comics like I did back in the
day. I used to buy GI Joe comics at my local stationery store – if I
tried that today 1.) I wouldn’t find any there and 2.) when I did find
them at a comic store or book store, they’d be so packed full of
violence and sexu@l innuendo that my parents would beat me senseless
for buying them in the first place.
I’m not even sure how you can fix the problem – you’d think that with
the new slew of comic movies, this would be the chance to get
new/younger readers on board, but comics have never been *less*
accessible to new audiences then they are right now.
It’s a d@mned shame.
Izzo – I feel that. We had a place called the M&M Sweete Shop a few streets up
from my house, and it was a candy store and diner. They had 2 spinner
racks. My buddy Matt Freeman and I would walk there every Saturday with
our allowances, and buy comics. I was a Spidey kid, he was an X-Men
kid. Occasionally, we’d branch out and buy weird crap that had a cool
That just does not exist any longer.
Now – Secret Invasion…which through interviews with creators…was
planned, what, 4-5 years ago? C’mon man – it’s comics.
I love comics. I drop close to 25 bucks a week on them. All indie and
kooky junk from storytellers and creators I love, but I do it for the
fun of it. I KNOW there are folks that LOVE Spidey stories now…but
they just don’t work for me anymore. I wish they did.
Iron-Cow – something else to consider… I will pick up the first issue of a BIG EVENT issue… and almost always find myself not buying the rest, waiting for The Trade Paperback instead.
Problem is, by the time the TPB comes out, I’ve lost all interest…
Izzo – Good call.
Waiting for the trade.
This is SO disturbing to me. I LOOOOOOOVE an ongoing series. I do.
I’m no apologist about it…
Now, if I know a series is finite, I’m loving that too.
BUT – I loved the fact that I could buy Amazing Spider-Man for a year,
and have some undercurrents of a larger plot-line, but for the most
part, each story was self contained and fully enjoyable as a stand-alone
Anubis8 – I can remember the days of having 15+ books pulled a week that was a combination of DC, Marvel, Dark Horse & Image. These days aside from Madman I’m 100% DC and down to about 12 titles a month. After OMD from Marvel I dropped Spidey & this Silver Age revival crap from DC is leaving a bad taste in my mouth and I find myself okay with only picking up books every 4-6 weeks.
Airmax – I keep saying that I buy comics these days strictly out of habit. It’s
like watching a show you’ve been watching for years. You don’t realize
that you don’t *really* care about it any more, but it’s on every week
so you tune in.
I’m down to maybe $6-$10 a week (on a good week) on comics and there
is still some mainstream stuff in there – but I stopped being invested
in it ages ago. They can kill Mary Jane if they want, they can reveal
that Superman was the first Skrull – whatever man. A year from now
none of it will matter and they’ll be on to the next “BIG THING THAT’S
GUARANTEED TO ALTER EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT *insert character name
Strangely, the quality of comics has never been higher in my opinion -
we’ve reached an incredible balance between writer and artist and
there are so many talented people working. So I don’t want to change
everything about comics, but it would be nice to get back to funny
Izzo – Well said brother. Like Steve, I have a few books I am dedicated to.
Madman and the Hellboy universe. Outside of that, I pick up a few
interesting things here and there…but the ones I WAS buying by rote
have all gone the way of the dodo.
Man, there’s a shining moment – around maybe 1992 – when the original Tundra Madman book came out.
I was going to Time Warp (yay Gene!!!) every Saturday with my dad….and my pull box was FILLED. I mean, filled with everything.
Spidey – every title
X-Men (Jim Lee run)
ALL Image titles
I was dropping 50-60 bucks. It was insanity….but MAN, that was a golden age.
Now…not so much.
*to be continued*