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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:28 pm 
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Sucks yes, but I think most knew or at least suspected this after the sudden long hiatus. *sigh*

Cartoon Network - the Mattel of the cable airwaves....

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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:03 pm 
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Well, that sucks. Not truly unexpected, however.

Sometimes I really wish I lived in Japan where animation is just another art form where stories can run the gamut from kiddie stuff all the way up to mature adult (even porn :oops: ). That way a mature show with Marvel or DC could thrive for years and years. We had that with JLU, Avengers EMH, Spectacular Spider-man, and now Young Justice, but lately none of them seem to make it past 2 seasons (anybody remember Wolverine and the X-men?).

But instead, execs believe "cartoons" must be dumbed down for the 8 year old set and good stuff like YJ gets replaces with inferior productions, just like the superior spectacular SM got replaced with Ultimate SM.

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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:09 pm 
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Not that it means much, but some people set up a nice little petition. I usually don't bother with them but this time I feel obligated.

https://www.change.org/petitions/cartoo ... ries#share


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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:06 pm 
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FenixWrite wrote:
Not that it means much, but some people set up a nice little petition. I usually don't bother with them but this time I feel obligated.

https://www.change.org/petitions/cartoo ... ries#share

I did it.

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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:48 pm 
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A failed toy line means a dead show.


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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:18 am 
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A failed toy line means a dead show.

That should not be the case. Other than the figures from Mattel and McDonald's happy meals, DC hardly merchandised the Young Justice show.


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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:36 am 
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Agreed, but that's the world we live in now.

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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:26 pm 
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Hmmmmmm.

Logic dictates that if the line failed, someone did not do their job and should be fired.


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Of course I would imagine Mattel actually wants to have someone still working there. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:43 am 
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I remember reading an interview or being told that Static Shock was cancelled after 4 seasons (52 episodes) instead of 5 seasons (65 episodes) which is when they typically end because there was no toy line. The story went something like this. An episode costs $5,000 to make. WB or CN pays $4,000 for it. The real money is in merchandising, the largest chunk of which is toys. That not only makes up the difference, but IS the profit. But without it, they were losing $1,000 per episode. they could no longer afford to do so, so they ended the show.

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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:54 am 
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OK, I really like the overall show, but it bugs me that EVERY time we think the heroes have a made a step forward or two against the villains, the villains are shown to be still 2 steps ahead of the heroes. I miss the days when the heroes won. Like every story of Justice League.

While the infiltration of Aqualad and Artemis into the Light is on track, this time:
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1. We find out the recent 'ally', the Martian Beetle is really working for the Reach and may have reset Blue Beetle, dooming the whole planet.
2. The recent captives seem to be joining Lex Luthor. Disappointed to see the Super Friends characters on the wrong side again (they did this in JLU). Static has been his own hero and I feel he should have been given proper solo character handling like Impulse and Blue Beetle have been granted this season. I did gladly geek out when Ty did his Apache Chief stuff. And the show creators/writers included El Dorado, who was left out of the JLU version. Man, I wish we could get some toys of this stuff. :( That glowing version of Apache Chief was too cool.

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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:14 am 
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The end of every comic story is known (the heroes will win).

It's the journey to that victory that makes the story interesting. And YJ has been one hell of an interesting journey.

Too bad we'll only got six episodes left.

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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:33 am 
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Shellhead wrote:
The end of every comic story is known (the heroes will win).

It's the journey to that victory that makes the story interesting. And YJ has been one hell of an interesting journey.

Too bad we'll only got six episodes left.


I think you really overvalue this show. It's been nothing but a disjointed story from episode 1. We haven't solved anything since the show started and now it's ending. It's a fun show, I enjoy the characters, but the "journey" has been a frustrating and bumpy ride.


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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
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Shellhead wrote:
The end of every comic story is known (the heroes will win).

Well, the record on YJ is not very good.
And when are they going to get to the 6 off world JL members?

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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:32 am 
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I'm sure they'll be back just in time to save the day from Darkseid and the Reach in the last (or second last) episode.

Having much of the League off world forces the younger heroes to step up (with varied results) and explains why the Light is focusing on them rather than the League.

Greg writes flawed, realistic characters in a world that's not black/white but multiple shades of grey. I find it much more interesting than standard superhero fare.

But hey, YMMV. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Young Justice TV Series Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:32 pm 
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Greg writes flawed, realistic characters in a world that's not black/white but multiple shades of grey. I find it much more interesting than standard superhero fare.
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This just like Gargoyles is why this show is so good--- (he's especially good at tieing loose ends together - and weaving in small little things from previous episodes.)

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