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 Post subject: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:40 am 
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What the hell Hasbro? How can you miss out on an opportunity to expand the presence of Marvel Properties on Toy Shelves? I'm a little disappointed.... I was hoping to set up 4.25"/5 POA versions of Marvel's greatest heroes right next to my JLU/YJ display...


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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:13 am 
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This. I really don't understand that at all. The show's doing really well. I thought it was a shoe in for a toy line.

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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:04 pm 
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I'll tell you what I could really go for: an Avengers EMH sub-line of Marvel Universe, with show-inspired figures that are compatible with the rest of the line. Basically what G.I. Joe is doing with their Renegades stuff.

I mean, as much as I love the show, the art design isn't really anything to write home about. Almost everyone is in the same costumes as their comic counterparts anyway. Design-wise, an MU Kang wouldn't look much different than an EMH Kang, so may as well just make an MU Kang, know what I mean?

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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:11 pm 
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Sean Whitmore wrote:
I'll tell you what I could really go for: an Avengers EMH sub-line of Marvel Universe, with show-inspired figures that are compatible with the rest of the line. Basically what G.I. Joe is doing with their Renegades stuff.

I mean, as much as I love the show, the art design isn't really anything to write home about. And almost everyone is in the costumes as their comic counterparts anyway. Design-wise, an MU Kang wouldn't look much different than an EMH Kang, so may as well just make an MU Kang, know what I mean?


Interesting concept... They could use the cartoonish card art a la G.I. Joe Renegades/POC and do it in MU style. The only problem is that they'd find a way to give us more A-listers in there. If they could just do villains (Kang, Leader, Abomination) and ancillary heroes (Mockingbird, Wonder Man) then it would be fine by me.

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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:50 pm 
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I'm guessing they fear an Avenger's: EMH line would cannibalize the sales of MU. Probably the same reason they're not releasing G.I. Joe Renegades figures sculpted to look like the show designs.


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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:36 am 
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I, for one, am glad they aren't doing a line.

I just don't understand the appeal of JLU type figures. They suck IMO. No articulation and they look goofy. Save the tooling dollars and plug them into MU (or the upcoming Legends) to make more cool looking figures.

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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:35 am 
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Shellhead wrote:
No articulation and they look goofy

No artic, sure, but look goofy? How so? There are lots of collectors that prefer figs with limited articulation, and the main reason is that articulation breaks up a nice looking sculpt in most cases. Lots of 6" collectors prefer DCD over DCUC for that same reason.

I'm not saying you have to like vanilla posed figures with limited articulation, or you have to like the JLU style, but I really don't see how they look "goofy". They look stylized like the art of the show, and you're a fan of the animated shows.

On the flip side, here's something that looks goofy aesthetically (shoulders, hips, etc.):
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I have lots of Marvel Legends and MU, but I'd love to see a Marvel line of clean, stylized sculpts a la JLU, or something new via the Avengers toon. One of the best lines ever might be SW Clone Wars in this sense. Those figs retain the stylized animated look, but they have a fair amount of articulation built in. I'd love to see that same approach taken on Marvel and DC figures.


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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:29 am 
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Like I said in my opinion. I don't have a problem with that Daredevil figure. Perhaps the shoulders are a bit big, but otherwise it looks great to me.

I would much rather have that figure than ANY JLU, Spectacular Spider-man, Ben 10, or other animated style figure. But that's just me. If I want a beautiful sculpt of a super hero, I'll buy a statue or a bust (and I have bought many). But if I want an action figure, I want it to be articulated and be as "realistically" sculpted as possible. I don't want animated styles. I put up with PE because they were close to DCUC, just as I'll put up with the 6 inch YJ figures.

However, you are absolutely right about the current Clone Wars figures. You get the best of both worlds there. If we could have Avengers EMH figures like those, I'd probably pick some up.

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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:09 am 
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Sean Whitmore wrote:
I mean, as much as I love the show, the art design isn't really anything to write home about. Almost everyone is in the same costumes as their comic counterparts anyway. Design-wise, an MU Kang wouldn't look much different than an EMH Kang, so may as well just make an MU Kang, know what I mean?
This. There's nothing wrong with the character designs, but there's nothing special about them, either. I don't see any point to something like this.

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On the flip side, here's something that looks goofy aesthetically (shoulders, hips, etc.)
The same could be said for almost everything from that line, though. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:45 pm 
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I'm guessing the Wolverine and the X-Men figures didn't do too well, either.

But ragging on JLU NOW of all times! Man, are you on the wrong messageboard! :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:02 am 
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Derby wrote:
What the hell Hasbro? How can you miss out on an opportunity to expand the presence of Marvel Properties on Toy Shelves? I'm a little disappointed.... I was hoping to set up 4.25"/5 POA versions of Marvel's greatest heroes right next to my JLU/YJ display...

IDK does Hasbro and/or Marvel like getting owned by Mattel and DC? First they cancel Marvel Legends, put out overpriced teeny figures, and then waste an opportunity to release some quality animated style figures of The Avengers: EMH. Marvel's presence in the Toy shelves would definitley be expanded beyond peg clogging Iron Man 2 figures no one wants. (Seriously enough with the Iron Man crap!)

And yes it would be nice to display Earth's Mightiest Heroes next to JLU.
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I just don't understand the appeal of JLU type figures. They suck IMO. No articulation and they look goofy. Save the tooling dollars and plug them into MU (or the upcoming Legends) to make more cool looking figures.

They look like their animated counterparts and they aren't teeny. Marvel Universe sucks IMO. They are too small and they're overpriced. The tooling dollars should be saved for Marvel Legends or a decent sized Avengers: EMH animated line.
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I'm guessing the Wolverine and the X-Men figures didn't do too well, either.

It wouldn't surprise me, when I first saw them I thought they looked like s*** and costed WAY too much for such a tiny figure.
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I'll tell you what I could really go for: an Avengers EMH sub-line of Marvel Universe, with show-inspired figures that are compatible with the rest of the line.

Absolutley not! Then they would be crappy figures just like the crappy Wolverine and the X-Men line. 4.75 scale would be great scale for The Avengers EMH, even 6 inch scale.
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I mean, as much as I love the show, the art design isn't really anything to write home about. Almost everyone is in the same costumes as their comic counterparts anyway.

Almost every DC character on JLU had the same costume as their comic counterparts, yet we still got figures from them. What's wrong with doing the same for Avengers: EMH?


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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:51 am 
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In defense of the Wolverine and the X-Men line, those figures pretty much looked identical to the show and they still didn't sell very well. Maybe Hasbro saw the same type of thing happening again. I don't know, I'm just spit balling here.

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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:37 am 
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I'm a fan of the animated style. Starting from the Batman Animated series and moving to the JLU. BUT, somewhere along the way the plastic got weaker and the articulation (Limited I know and I like it that way) got worse. Still, in a static pose, I like the look.

I think the Wolverine line suffered from the Toybiz 90's over exagerated poses. Again, I still picked up Forge because he looked great.

I like the DC Infinite heroes line. Yes it is a bit sloppy at times, but. Like everything else I collect, I keep an eye for cross population. Robin from Teen Titans and Brainiac from the McDonalds Legion of Superheroes toys stand along side Batman and the rest of the JLU.

I'd buy the EMH figures done either way. Animated like the Wolverine and the X-men figures or as an off-shoot of the Marvel Universe figures like they did with the movie figures. But I'd lean more towards the animated style. It is a cartoon afterall.

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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:20 am 
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scottbernard wrote:
I'm guessing the Wolverine and the X-Men figures didn't do too well, either.

But ragging on JLU NOW of all times! Man, are you on the wrong messageboard! :roll:


Where have you been? My distaste of the JLU line is no secret. Heck, probably one of my first posts was about how much I don't like it! :lol:

Fortunately, in a couple years, the JLU lovefest will die down a bit and DCUC (not to mention Hasbro) will get a bigger share of the limelight! :wink:

Re Madbomber: Have you looked at a an action figure aisle lately? Hasbro products are at least 2/3's of it. If anything, Hasbro's the pitcher and Mattel's the catcher.

And if you think MU is too expensive, wait until you're paying 20 bucks a pop for new Marvel Legends. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Was there any mention of an Animated(EMH) Avengers line?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:39 am 
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IDK does Hasbro and/or Marvel like getting owned by Mattel and DC?



I think it is clearly the other way around.

Hasbro is putting all of it's efforts where it should into the Thor and Captain America movies and I'm sure those are their 2 big investments right now to make millions. I'd like to see these animated versions too but MU is fine for me with Marvel for sure. That line just keeps getting better and better.

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