The Future of JLU

Joe G. · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:11 am

Agreed, the sub route is the best way to go if they're going to do this.

Leeway · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:18 am

I am %100 in.

jzachery · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:32 am

Would be great if they could make it all new figures per 3 pack with no repeats... OR just get rid of the packaging all together and send them in baggies.

elvis8batman · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:34 am

I think after all the energy we've put into wanting this line to continue and especially in getting these final figures out, it would be ridiculous to back out on this offer, even at the bumped up price. Like Dan said, these will be at a much, much lower production run and as such will be the 'money' figures later down the line.

I'm in, and will be buying 2 of the packs with the new characters that I want, and 1 of the ones that I'm not as interested in. But..... I do have a couple of requests for Mattel;

1. If there are 6 packs to be released, please consider putting out one pack every 2 months, that way we get a year of JLU, and people can save up to get them.

2. For this final run, PLEASE make sure the plastic is the quality of other figures out there, no more rubbery arms or legs, and make the paint apps up to par as well.
The increased price reflects the low production run, but it should also show better quality in the production of these figures!!

JuliusMarx · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:36 am

jzachery wrote:

Would be great if they could make it all new figures per 3 pack with no repeats... OR just get rid of the packaging all together and send them in baggies.

Yes. That would be great, but they have stated several times that that is not a possibility. They have not been granted the resources to budget to make ANY kind of changes. It's this or nothing.

Even a sub.. as great as that would be, still takes resources and management. Online JLU sales have consistently shown that there are not enough JLU fans to warrant adding any resources.

jamiwa3 · **Joined:** Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:25 pm **Posts:** 554

I have to give Mattel some credit. These prices absolutely suck. The only pack with three new figures is the pack I care about the least. ALL of the packs except the Future JLU pack only have one new character. But still, they didn't even sell half of the minimum they needed, and they are still trying to get these packs out to us. Thank you to Fan Girl, Toy Guru, or whoever for at least putting the offer on the table. I'll reluctantly buy for $50/pack, although I doubt I'll be getting two of each pack like I have done in the past.

Christhorne wrote:

This is absolutely freaking HILARIOUS!

Jonathan · **Joined:** Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:47 am **Posts:** 4

I'd be happy to pay this much if it meant completing the line...I agree, a subscription would be the best way to go, but at this stage, after all the waiting, I still throw down $300 for the lot. The real sweetener would be the Dr. Destiny/Firefly/Volcana three pack but there is no way that we are going to see that. While these prices are crazy high, I still say fair play to Mattel. Most companies would have dropped this line years ago...at least Mattel are trying to get the last figures over the line...

Count me firmly in!!!

jamiwa3 · **Joined:** Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:25 pm **Posts:** 554

Oh, and that sound you just heard? That was the price of Volcana on Ebay skyrocketing even further past the already ridiculous price.

Glenn2000 · **Joined:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:30 pm **Posts:** 3210

Count me in.

jzachery · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:56 am

JuliusMarx wrote:

jzachery wrote:

Would be great if they could make it all new figures per 3 pack with no repeats... OR just get rid of the packaging all together and send them in baggies.

Yes. That would be great, but they have stated several times that that is not a possibility. They have not been granted the resources to budget to make ANY kind of changes. It's this or nothing.

Even a sub.. as great as that would be, still takes resources and management. Online JLU sales have consistently shown that there are not enough JLU fans to warrant adding any resources.

Yeah, I know, I've been paying attention. The unfortunate thing is, had they known that Target wouldn't pick up JLU for this wave, they could have made the change a long time ago and figured out a cheaper way for Mattel and the fans. It is what it is. I voted that I'm in for the $50... The real question is, if they release them, with this price,will it be all at once? Can you get the whole case and call it a day? Maybe there could be a small savings if you buy all six?

red Ricky · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:57 am

JuliusMarx wrote:

Just so we are clear- this is the ONLY way we will get these.

See, here's the thing. I'm not completely sure this is the only way. And if I were to have a sit down with Toy Guru, I would be more incisive in my questioning and I definitely bring up Mattel's recent "miscommunications" regarding:

Why do I bring this up? Because charging $50 dollars for Mongul & Guy Gardner when there is a Green Lantern Animated Series Line in the horizon is highway robbery. Pure and simple.

And let's not pretend it doesn't exist or it's not in the cards. We have seen the prototypes, plus the people working on the line were introduced at the last Comic Con. And the last joint DC Nation/Cartoon Network/Mattel-Partnership Press Release clearly stated that a Green Lantern Line is in the works. So again... let's not pretend that option is not on the table.

And yes, I do know that the existence of the Animated Green Lantern Line is still dependent on Retail Interest. But I am a patient person. I'm willing to wait until Toy Fair to find out about the future of that line, than commit now to buy a $50 dollar Guy Gardner that will be available in six months (granted, in a slightly repainted fashion) for $10.

So again... I don't think paying $50 dollars for a 3-pack is the only option and if that means I have to wait a couple of more months for "other options" to open up, then so be it. 'Cause I'm a little bit tired of Mattel's passive aggressiveness. I mean... Is this the good news that Fangirl 2.0 promised? And by now, don't the people at Mattel know there are different types of demand and that the demand for Vandal Savage, or Mongul, or Blue Beetle is very different from that of Johnny Thunder and the Crimson Avenger?

Honestly, Toy Guru keeps barking up the Doom Patrol tree; but it only shows his unawareness as to what the "true" fan demanded characters are. Toyman is and always was a Fan Demanded Character; Mento wasn't. If you are going to throw numbers at my face, then the ones that really matter relate to the Con Exclusive 3-Packs. If the Con Exclusives did well, and do well tomorrow; then those numbers would be the real indicators as to how other 3-packs would do as Con Exclusives in the future. Not the 7-pack.

And if they didn't or don't do well... then please explain why the possibility of merging the unproduced figures into the Green Lantern Animated line is off the table. Plenty of characters from the Batman line (and Super-Friends Show) made their way into the JLU line, so it's not unheard of.

Anyways, that's my take. I don't think it's unfair for me to ask for some questions to be answered before I commit to buying (or voting) for something. Plus, it's in everyone's best interest for some of my questions to be answered on account that... there's probably "a silent fanbase" that feels the way I do, and if there is no quorum, then the figures won't get made in the first place. So it's not as simple as saying "don't like it, don't buy it".

fball13z · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:59 am

JuliusMarx wrote:

Just so we are clear- this is the ONLY way we will get these. There will be NO reshuffling of figures, swapping out, combining, etc.

I'll wager IF they do these they will be a REALLY limited run. Smaller than anything we've seen from JLU so far. Yes. It's expensive. But a much lower production run means a much higher per unit cost.

I imagine these will be the key pieces in the line down the road. Like the Euro-Secret Wars figures or vintage Yakface.

These won't be worth it to every JLU fan. I get that. I know Mattel gets that. But they are trying to do right by the folks that stuck with the line, and really want those last figures. It's unprecedented for a toy line to do this.

I'm in. I want to finish out the line.

Yeah JM, well said.

To have Vandal Savage, Toyman, Future Supes, Mongul, its way worth it to me

fball13z · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:01 pm

red Ricky wrote:

JuliusMarx wrote:

Just so we are clear- this is the ONLY way we will get these.

See, here's the thing. I'm not completely sure this is the only way. And if I were to have a sit down with Toy Guru, I would be more incisive in my questioning and I definitely bring up Mattel's recent "miscommunications" regarding: 1- why DCUC ended, 2-why the subscription was the only way to get collector demanded figures, and 3- how Flashpoint Plastic Man, Superboy Prime & Larfleeze ended up in a retail line that was supposed to be more "kid friendly".

Why do I bring this up? Because charging $50 dollars for Mongul & Guy Gardner when there is a Green Lantern Animated Series Line in the horizon is highway robbery. Pure and simple.

And let's not pretend it doesn't exist or it's not in the cards. The people working on the line were introduced at the last Comic Con; and the last joint DC Nation/Cartoon Network/Mattel-Partnership Press Release clearly stated that a Green Lantern Line is in the works. So again... let's not pretend that option is not on the table.

And yes, I do know that the existence of the Animated Green Lantern Line is still dependent on Retail Interest. But I am a patient person. I'm willing to wait until Toy Fair to find out about the future of that line, than commit now to buy a $50 dollar Guy Gardner that will be available in six months (granted, in a slightly repainted fashion) for $10.

So again... I don't think paying $50 dollars for a 3-pack is the only option and if that means I have to wait a couple of more months for "other options" to open up, then so be it. 'Cause I'm a little bit tired of Mattel's passive aggressiveness. I mean... Is this the good news that Fangirl 2.0 promised? And by now, don't the people at Mattel know there are different types of demand and that Vandal Savage, a Mongul and Blue Beetle are way more important than Johnny Thunder and the Crimson Avenger?

Honestly, Toy Guru keeps barking up the Doom Patrol tree; but it only shows his unawareness as to what the "true" fan demanded characters are. Toyman is and always was a Fan Demanded Character; Mento wasn't. If you are going to throw numbers at my face, then ones that really matter relate to the Con Exclusive 3-Packs. If the Con Exclusives did well, and do well tomorrow; then they would be the real indicators as to how other 3-packs would do on Matty. Not the 7-pack.

And if they didn't or don't do well... then please explain why the possibility of merging the unproduced figures into the Green Lantern Animated line is off the table. Plenty of characters from the Batman line (and Super-Friends Show) made their way into the JLU line, so it's not unheard of.

Anyways, that's my take. I don't think it's unfair for me to ask for some questions to be answered before I commit to buying (or voting) for something. Plus, it's in everyone's best interest for some of my questions to be answered on account that... there's probably a silent fanbase that feels as I do, and if there is no corum, then the figures won't get made in the first place. So it's not as simple as saying "don't lilke it, don't buy it".

Yes ricky i am so sure you would fix everything, b/c you make it all sound so simple, plus i am sure attacking TG would be the perfect way to get what we want. :roll:

Also sounds like you are attacking JM a little on his "questioning" skills, just a FYI for ya

abuddah · **Joined:** Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:46 pm **Posts:** 279

I'm in, too late to stop now

If you're on the fence, remember auctions for these individual figures were around 10 times the amount Mattel is proposing

alcinde4 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:20 pm

You guys are nuts. I don't think I'll ever be as passionate about any toy line, as you all are about JLU. Best of luck to you.

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