First of all let me just say up front my reply was not meant to chastise anyone or make them feel foolish. It was really an attempt to inform... but it was hastily typed while my daughter was brushing her teeth before I had to go put her to bed so I apologize it it appeared 'short.'
Not to be snarky, but how would we know they're tired of rewording their answers over and over again if there's no trace of it in their answers!
I don't really mind, mind you. The flavor of the answers never really rubs me one way or the other. I don't find them particularly snarky, just disappointing.
The only reason I know they have answered them over and over again is because I subscribe to all of Scott's posts on the MattyCollector forums. Every night about 1am I get a digest email of everything he might have posted that day. Some days there are a lot, some days there are none. It's something I learned to do from the readers here actually.
Anyway, Big J, I didn't know DC licensing chose Rocket Red. I don't even know quite what you mean right now. Chose him out of what? The remaining poll options? A list of easy-to-do oversized characters? A hat?
I don't know exactly how it works in each instance, but I do know that in these types of agreements a licensee (Mattel) often will submit lists of characters that they would like to produce and all choices must be approved by the licensor. Sometimes the licensor will come back and say something like "we'll let you do "X", but we are using "X" in current publishing/story arcs/animation/promotions so we would need to to do 'Y' version of him to tie into our initiatives.
It was stated in one of the QA I think last month that DC licensing asked them to do that version of Rocket Red.
Sometimes, you know things that the rest of us don't, little innocuous things that were said in person at an event that might not have gotten reported on (there are plenty of times that some information doesn't trickle out until someone posts a video, Evil Lyn's GITD staff is an example that springs to mind).
Sometimes that is true, and when that happens I typically try to cite something like that if I can "I heard it from the horse's mouth..." In the earlier post I thought everything I mentioned was in the "public domain" and not a personal conversation. I think there are 2000 versions of that Toy Fair press conference on You Tube based on how many cameras were there recording it. We didn't even bother posting our recording of it because there were SO many others (some even live streaming) recording it that would have gotten it up before us.
Forgive me if you know exactly where this particular tidbit was reported and you can make me look like a fool with a simple link, but I didn't see it doing my TF armchair coverage and it doesn't sound like I'm the only one that was unaware of it.
Not trying to make anyone look or feel like a fool. My apologies again if it came off that way.
(This is kinda similar to a few months ago when you told me that the black costume Supergirl was a previously released figure - I've never heard that Mattel had planned her in the black costume and have yet to find a trace of it aside from you mentioning it to me - which, btw, if you leave me a comment at IAT come back and check on it!)
Ha. Busted. I'm TERRIBLE at following up on threads like that on other sites. i can barely keep up with the boards and threads here plus my email accounts.
But back to my point, no matter who chose Rocket Red to be in the sub, no matter what clearly misinformed person decided the modern 6" version should be an 8" figure, it's a stupid mistake that the consumer will be footing the bill for. They may as well make Hal Jordan an 8" oversized figure because it's that ridiculous/inaccurate. We should be asking about it over and over. We should be voicing that we're upset. I know that you understand the ins and outs of the industry, you know the people personally, you know the power of staying positive - basically, I know that you consider plenty of angles beyond "me unhappy with bad figure" - but even you, as a collector, has to be at least slightly "meh" about that Rocket Red.
Actually... I'd say RR is the one character announced in the sub that I am the MOST "meh" about. I have no connection to him, don't think I've ever read a story where he did anything besides show up in the background. My biggest connection to him is I have a JLU figure and a custom Super Powers figure of him. Him being 6" or 8" really doesn't matter to me. He's a guy in a metal suit so I would think he'd be a bit bigger. I have no emotional connection to either version/costume. The decal thing would have been a cool feature, so I'm slightly sad that didn't happen... but i'm sure some enterprising customizer will right that wrong.
Heck, I know that Mattel personnel can not publicly express their own disapproval, but I hope that they too realize/feel that Rocket Red is everything that the subscription isn't supposed to be.
I'm REALLY asking this honestly - Are you saying that NO Rocket Red ever in DCUC would be better that us getting this version? Is that really a deal breaker? It might be. I don't know.
Which brings me to my second point - the Q&As are not just questions, they're feedback. How many times did Mattel tell us that Atrocitus was going to be short and it was out of their control? Were we, as a group, just supposed to ask one time, get told no, and leave it at that? Of course not. We kept hammering away collectively and the folks at Mattel, to their credit, found a way to give Atrocitus that extra oomph.
I guess I don't know what "oomph" you are referring to. Atrocitus is built on the standard Superman buck from what I've seen. I would have preferred him even a little beefier with the Hawkman/MM buck.
That's why I'm more than happy to ask again and again about the little inane things. I'm going to laugh and play with my Classics Keldor Swords some day soon. I've got a Battle Armor Faker sitting on my desk. I see no reason to stop asking the questions over and over. If Mattel wants me to stop, they've got to revoke my Q&A privileges or stop fixing at least some of the stuff we ask them to fix! Repetitive answers, perceived snarkiness, and disappointment will not dissuade me.
That's fine. I feel you. I too have been perplexed, frustrated and disappointed on occasion with the answers I have gotten back. Especially on questions that I myself have carefully crafted according to their guidelines. I get that. And I think Scott and all of the design teams agree that they DO want fan feedback, and they know that fans catch stuff they don't see sometimes. Right now Scott is the only brand manager brave enough to pop his head up out of the trench and answer our questions because he IS a collector. Right now the other brand managers see how he is treated online and has become the face of the company and they want NO PART OF THAT. They don't even want us to know their names. I think the new retail brand managers are perfectly content to do their jobs, make their products and sell them to mom, kids and grandmas. And I can't say that I blame them.
I'm not targeting any one person in the next section - I'm just talking about the "broad strokes collectors" including myself-
Part of the problem is the "entitlement" thinking that SOME collectors wrap themselves in. They trumpet how "we pay your salary" and "without us you don't have a job", "WE are your customer base" and it's just not true. We help, but collectors still don't make up that big of the market to move the needle in any significant measurement. But MAN we act like we do! And often times instead of giving feedback, constructive criticism or open a dialog, when we see something we don't like we get pissed off and we attack and whip others into a frenzy. And that's not helping our cause.
So all that being said - yes. I agree. DO ask questions. And if you don't like the answer, ask it again. But also at some point if you keep getting the same answer over and over again you have to take into account that that just might be the real answer. Fan questions and fan feedback have made a difference in MANY cases with Mattel. Thank goodness there are people there that are willing to sort through the lunatic fringe and find the real feedback and make real changes as a result. Very few companies are willing to do that.
Finally, Julius, I really do appreciate you being the voice of reason, stepping up to the plate and trying to quell the mob, clear the air, etc., but sometimes the mob needs you.
I'm always willing to help out. I have delivered MANY messages, questions and feedback to the powers that be of toy companies in my 10+ years of doing this. And I'll keep doing it, cuz I love this stuff too.
And I've said it before but it's worth saying again - THANK YOU Noisy for pulling together all of the Q&As twice a month and putting them into one thread on a message board on a site that's not even your own! I appreciate it, and I know a LOT of AFi readers appreciate it. Because you do that, that's one more way I personally am able to stay current on Mattel news each month. Thanks!
Hopefully this message is somewhat coherent. As I am writing it at 1:36am I have my doubts. I'll have to proof read it in the morning.
As always, your mileage may vary.