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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:35 am 
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Is that every incarnation of the boots Jay has worn?

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And Joel, Jay's boots aren't wrong. He's been shown with both - these boots were just the cheaper way to go. And as you well know by now, anything that Mattel does that doesn't involve a new cost is going to ripped to shreds.

Actually, they are incorrect. Do you really feel this:

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matches any of these?

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:35 am 
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And? I work for a large financial institution, and our CEO routinely makes $16 million a year. Meanwhile, the company hasn't given its employees a bonus since 2006. It's not uncommon.


And this whole "it didn't price out" line is a bunch of crap.

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Of course, the company as a whole can afford it. The piece of the pie that the boys' division gets, though? Different story.


They need to do a better job of dividing up that pie.

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And Joel, Jay's boots aren't wrong. He's been shown with both - these boots were just the cheaper way to go. And as you well know by now, anything that Mattel does that doesn't involve a new cost is going to ripped to shreds.


Just like we know that Mattel's apologists are going to keep rushing to their rescue.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:41 am 
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SDcomics wrote:

They need to do a better job of dividing up that pie.



I just wanted to comment on this part, Mattel will always put more money in the things that make it more money. Boys action figures are big to us, but to Mattel its a very small part of their sales.


In the company I run, I do not put more money to a smaller product, I keep building up the money makers


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:44 am 
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WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!!!!!

When did this thread devolve into Occupy propaganda? :roll:

I don't see Cuba, Russia, or North Korea making awesome DC figures.


Oh, look. More cute little eye rollies.

Congratulations. You have managed to completely miss the point.

I don't care if the idiot in charge of this company wants to pay himself 10 million a year and fly around in a company jet.

Just don't tell me there's no money to do little things like fix Jay's boots. I'm not really buying that.

As far as eye rolls go, I like this one:

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:47 am 
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SDcomics wrote:

They need to do a better job of dividing up that pie.



I just wanted to comment on this part, Mattel will always put more money in the things that make it more money. Boys action figures are big to us, but to Mattel its a very small part of their sales.


In the company I run, I do not put more money to a smaller product, I keep building up the money makers


Then maybe they should have just stuck to Hot Wheels and Barbies.

There must be a reason why they went after the DC license in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:53 am 
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SDcomics wrote:

Then maybe they should have just stuck to Hot Wheels and Barbies.

There must be a reason why they went after the DC license in the first place.


but they do not just use it for boys action figures, they use the license for barbie, hotwheels, little kids toys and so on

but really my question, who do you think could or would do more then Mattel has done with the 6" line?

Other then toybiz, who has ever done a comic toy line with 100's of figure in them that are pretty close to scale with each other most the time?

most toy companys knock out the top 3-5 characters in a toy line and then move on, maybe 15 if you are lucky.

Im not trying to be a smart ass, but I really want to know who else?

Habro failed with ML in the begining, lets see what they can do with the "return", but look at some of their new 3 3/4" figures, they are starting to make cuts to save money just like Mattel. The new GI Joe movie figures do not come with stands, have very plain paint jobs and are cut back in the articulation department


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths - will you sign up
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:55 am 
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We sure do manage to squeeze a lot of angry into one thread don't we?

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths - will you sign up
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We sure do manage to squeeze a lot of angry into one thread don't we?


lol toy forums what ya goin do lol


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths - will you sign up
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:08 pm 
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We sure do manage to squeeze a lot of angry into one thread don't we?


Seriously. When did the matty collector forums take over here?


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:23 pm 
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SDcomics wrote:

Then maybe they should have just stuck to Hot Wheels and Barbies.

There must be a reason why they went after the DC license in the first place.


but they do not just use it for boys action figures, they use the license for barbie, hotwheels, little kids toys and so on

but really my question, who do you think could or would do more then Mattel has done with the 6" line?

Other then toybiz, who has ever done a comic toy line with 100's of figure in them that are pretty close to scale with each other most the time?

most toy companys knock out the top 3-5 characters in a toy line and then move on, maybe 15 if you are lucky.

Im not trying to be a smart ass, but I really want to know who else?

Habro failed with ML in the begining, lets see what they can do with the "return", but look at some of their new 3 3/4" figures, they are starting to make cuts to save money just like Mattel. The new GI Joe movie figures do not come with stands, have very plain paint jobs and are cut back in the articulation department


I see your point, but I'm sorry, I'm just not buying the whole "It didn't cost out" line that Mattel hands us.

The reason Mattel went after the DC license and Hasbro went after Marvel wasn't just so they could make Hot Wheels Batmobiles and Spider-Man Mr. potato heads, or even adult collectors 6" action figures. I know they don't make a ton of money on the adult collectors.

No, the reason they went after these licenses is because of the movies. Particularly Batman and Spider-Man movies.

I've been to a lot of San Diego Comic-Cons and I've talked to a lot of toy companies. And every company that's had the Batman license, from Mattel and Hasbro to Corgi, have said the same thing. Batman is a monster. Batman is a cash cow. Stores order heavy on Batman. I imagine Hasbro is having similar success with Iron Man and the Avengers right now.

And that's fine. That's great. I hope Dark Knight is a huge success and Mattel knocks it out of the park.

I'm just not buying the idea that all of these cost savings cuts are really necessary. Particularly when you have a guy that gives himself a ten million dollar bonus.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:50 pm 
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WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!!!!!

When did this thread devolve into Occupy propaganda? :roll:

I don't see Cuba, Russia, or North Korea making awesome DC figures.



RIGHT!!!!

It's actually China. :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:29 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths - will you sign up
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:40 pm 
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Wow, did this thread go down hill fast. I'm most likely in, but would love to see a line up this go round. Something that is frustrating me is the delay in the current sub and the renewal time being so close together now. While I've had little complaints outside of the last few waves I kind of feel that Matty has lost their focus. Whether it is because of Time-Warner or their own meandering I'm not sure?


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:22 pm 
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WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!!!!!

When did this thread devolve into Occupy propaganda? :roll:

I don't see Cuba, Russia, or North Korea making awesome DC figures.



RIGHT!!!!

It's actually China. :roll:


Very true, which is why I left them off that list.

I think people are angry because we had something pretty cool on the shelves for a long time (DCUC and JLU although I dislike the latter) and now we have nothing to look forward to for the rest of the year except Batman.

Stir in some New DC Angst and people are pissed. People want DCU toys and Mattel doesn't seem to be willing (able?) to get them on the shelves.

We've had some good years lately. 2000-2011 was almost a return to the glory of the 80's. But it seems that 2012 is marking the beginning of the end of this second golden age. Mattel's lines are mostly cancelled, Hasbro's cutting back/becoming lackluster (I can't remember a more disappointing year for Star Wars and the Avengers line was just awful).

Not to mention YJ cancelled and terrible exclusives this year.

There's a lot of valid reasons to be a toy pessimist right now.

But Mattel's CEO's salary is not one of them. It's a non-issue.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 DC Universe Club Infinite Earths - will you sign up
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:11 pm 
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Chances are good that I will sign up for the 2013 DC sub.


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