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 Post subject: Diedrich Bader: Mattel LOVED that we had so many villans....
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:50 am 
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on Brave and the Bold
source: http://smodcast.com/episodes/diedrich-baderthe-hammers-of-justice/
(MOD- Language is not appropriate for children... typical Kevin Smith :wink: )

Looking at my shelf, I see Grundy, the Joker, Kanjar-Ro and The Riddler

to quote Kelly Bundy "The mind wobbles"


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 Post subject: Re: Diedrich Bader: Mattel LOVED that we had so many villans
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:17 am 
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Off the top of my head, Black Manta and Grodd. Can't think of any others.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, Rubberneck and Metallo.

Maybe he was referring to Action League? Lots of villains in there.


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 Post subject: Re: Diedrich Bader: Mattel LOVED that we had so many villans
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:31 am 
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...and Grodd, Metallo, Despero, Starro, Sportsmaster, Rubberneck, Black Manta, off the top of my head...


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 Post subject: Re: Diedrich Bader: Mattel LOVED that we had so many villans
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:57 am 
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Does Starro count? He came with Gold of the Metal Men.

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 Post subject: Re: Diedrich Bader: Mattel LOVED that we had so many villans
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:00 am 
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tuning4k wrote:
Does Starro count? He came with Gold of the Metal Men.


Yeah, he was an accessory, but by that standard what would that make Scarface in The Batman line or Bat-Mite in Batman Legacy?


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 Post subject: Re: Diedrich Bader: Mattel LOVED that we had so many villans
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Dang. Forgot Despero, Sportsmaster and Starro. So the complete list is:

Black Manta
Despero
Gorilla Grodd
Joker
Kanjar Ro
Metallo
Riddler
Rubberneck
Solomon Grundy
Sportsmaster
Starro

That about right?


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 Post subject: Re: Diedrich Bader: Mattel LOVED that we had so many villans
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All right, all right. My point is this line didn't support the series diversity, it was about countless bat-variants that the show openly mocked in it's finale. I had to get a Bat-Mite by traveling to several McDonalds and then painting him properly.


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 Post subject: Re: Diedrich Bader: Mattel LOVED that we had so many villans
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Sorry, abuddah. We weren't piling on. Just more of an intellectual exercise for me. And I agree Mattel could've done more, starting with the Faceless Hunter and Gentlemen Ghost figures they already had in the works. I think the number of Kanjar Ros that went to discount stores put Mattel off the villains. It would've been better to lead with Joker, but he didn't show up until later in the show's run. I still think they could've done better than Kanjar. Even Black Manta sold through pretty well.


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 Post subject: Re: Diedrich Bader: Mattel LOVED that we had so many villans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:43 am 
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We were told by Mattel from the very beginning, the original announcement that Mattel considered this to be a "kids" line and NOT a collectors line and to expect a LOT of Bat-variants.

You can't be surprised that it came to pass.


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 Post subject: Re: Diedrich Bader: Mattel LOVED that we had so many villans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:50 pm 
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I wouldn't be surprised if Mattel DID want to produce multiple villains but were shot down by the big 3 retailers. If the store buyers aren't going to order them, there was no point for Mattel to produce them. They have a lot of power in deciding what gets produced.


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