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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:09 pm 
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This thread is bumming me out. It's like a Geoff Johns gripefest.

I liked it better when we were talking about being snarky.


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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:17 pm 
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JQ3x29yz4a wrote:
I don't at all mind modern characters, I just would like ones that actually matter -- Secret Six, Kate Spencer Manhunter, Stephanie Brown Batgirl ... and wouldn't a modern Batwoman with classic variant have been nice?


All great choices.

How about some Grant Morrison?

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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:52 pm 
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I would love a DCuC Prometheus

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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:08 am 
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I would love a DCuC Prometheus


Hell yes!

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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:27 am 
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I'll take the Justice League 1 Million characters in any scale!

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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:43 am 
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Those would make some great figures :)

Just please, no All Grant Morrison, All The Time :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:26 pm 
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How about some Grant Morrison?

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ANd see-- as much as you hate Johns-- I hate Morrison that much more-- I still think he should carry around a business card as the Man who killed Batman (at least for me). I really stopped picking up his comics during his run His stuff was even more unreadable than the new 52 stuff-- and dont get me started on his look how much more comic knowledge I have than you of something that went on 50 years ago.I think that just became his goal to make the comics as unreadable as they were back then...... . not to mention the New X-Men, or the god awful All Star Superman and everything else he touches

(although Maybe Im being a hypocrite when I admit I do like Prometheus- but an evil Batman that downloads his stuff like in the Matrix-- how can you not like him)

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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:01 pm 
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I'll take the Justice League 1 Million characters in any scale!


This, times one million! I'd prefer JLU versions of them, but the DC One Million characters are long overdue in any toy line.

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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:53 pm 
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SDcomics wrote:
JQ3x29yz4a wrote:
I don't at all mind modern characters, I just would like ones that actually matter -- Secret Six, Kate Spencer Manhunter, Stephanie Brown Batgirl ... and wouldn't a modern Batwoman with classic variant have been nice?


All great choices.

How about some Grant Morrison?

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I second the emotion! I been begging for Prometheus and was so impressed we got him in Action League! Zauriel is must have, Amsodel as an oversized figure would look cool by the 4H! I hoped for Aztek but I think the #1 need for my Grant Morrison JLA is the 90s Huntress!

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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:14 pm 
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ANd see-- as much as you hate Johns--


Okay, let me say this again (For the second time): I don't "hate" Johns. I just don't think he's a great writer and I don't think he should be in the position he's in. "Hate" is a strong word and it probably shouldn't be thrown around that much.

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I hate Morrison that much more-- I still think he should carry around a business card as the Man who killed Batman (at least for me). I really stopped picking up his comics during his run His stuff was even more unreadable than the new 52 stuff-- and dont get me started on his look how much more comic knowledge I have than you of something that went on 50 years ago.I think that just became his goal to make the comics as unreadable as they were back then...... . not to mention the New X-Men, or the god awful All Star Superman and everything else he touches


Well, to each their own. I think Grant is a brilliant writer. Whenever I feel like reading some really great comics, I always pick up his stuff or my DC Archives or Marvel Masterworks.

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(Guys like Morrison, Broome, Fox, Kubert, Kane, Infantino, Lee, Kirby, Ditko ... far from "unreadable". Their stuff will stay in print forever.)


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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:58 am 
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stewbacca wrote:
not to mention the New X-Men, or the god awful All Star Superman and everything else he touches

(although Maybe Im being a hypocrite when I admit I do like Prometheus- but an evil Batman that downloads his stuff like in the Matrix-- how can you not like him)


You had me right up until these last 2 sentences...

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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:59 am 
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How is All Star Superman awful? I really enjoyed that book.


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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:38 am 
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Just about the best Superman story I ever read.

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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:47 am 
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My 2cents...

Obviously you guys have read my opinion on Johns' influence on DCUC, and DC in general. No need to pontificate on that topic.

But would all us 'old timers' be complaining if the line hadn't ended so abruptly? Everything was chugging along nicely up until the SDCC announcement last year. Wave 17 & 18 were begrudgingly accepted, as we expected to get 'back on track' with wave 19, but then panic set in as fans realized that not only was the line ending, but also all these classic characters we were waiting for now will never appear at retail, and to some, those spots were "stolen" by some of the mediocre choices in those aforementioned waves.

Would the vitriol be flowing so freely if Mattel had announced that DCUC would be ending after wave 23, instead of wave 21, and added a couple of fan-requested waves that included Wally West, Flash Rogues, remaining Metal Men, original Kyle Rayner, hookhand Aquaman, Mera, Zauriel, Elongated Man, Perez Zatanna, Fire & Ice, Dimitri Rocket Red, etc?

I doubt it.

I think the Johns hate is equal parts his perceived meddling influence, and the line ending without getting many classic characters while including morts like the deputy Lanterns.

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 Post subject: Re: Ask Mattel for April 2nd
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:47 pm 
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I kinda agree with you, but...

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Would the vitriol be flowing so freely if Mattel had <insert anything>?


...I think the answer to that question is "YES!". I'm not saying it would be the exact same people with the exact same gripes, but the % of vitriol would probably stay pretty constant. Adult collectors + internet = free flowing vitriol. That seems more true now than it did 2 or 3 years ago.


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