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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:32 am 
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You know, I just watched the movie last night to get the " thrill of the thread". I sure would like one. Especially from the once and future episodes with the robo- suits. I would like a joker too. I wish Mattel would make a bb line just for us collectOrs.

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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:40 am 
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From a writing standpoint it was just exceptional.Now I know it has been since censored in a later release,which I don't agree on btw.The story's meaning still resonates.To take a chance with a beloved character such as Robin/Tim and torture him both mentally and psychlogically, was risky to say the least.
It remains one of my favorites also.

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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:08 am 
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I would have bought the set for sure. But I buy all of the JLU stuff. It's hard to say how successful a ROTJ figure pack would have done. I expected the Gotham Villains 4 Pack to sell really well on Matty, but it didn't. Then again, there would be a new Joker figure in a ROTJ figure set, and the Joker always sells really well.

The movie was so great...and it would have been a wonderful opportunity to get a TNBA style Batman figure in there.


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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:39 am 
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I think that a Batman: Return of the Joker set would have sold very well...for a JLU offering that is. There aren't any true figures from the film, are there? Dee Dee would have been a cost effective way of getting two figures made from one mold. A future Joker would have been super popular. If the JLU four packs were considered a Matty success, then I see no reason why Return of the Joker wouldn't have been on Mattel's short list for future 4 pack glory.

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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:55 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:26 pm 
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It was a fantastic movie.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:39 pm 
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I know I would have bought it. Still would.

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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:26 pm 
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I think Mattel always under estimated the strength of Batman Beyond when JLU was going strong. I mean I was always shouting on the boards- Stalker, Inque, Dee Dee,ROTJ Joker, Shriek and some other would have been easy enough and sold great the show was still airing on various channels across the globe and my little nephew always wanted to watch Batman Beyond instead of Brave and the bold....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:29 pm 
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I think Mattel always under estimated the strength of Batman Beyond when JLU was going strong. I mean I was always shouting on the boards- Stalker, Inque, Dee Dee,ROTJ Joker, Shriek and some other would have been easy enough and sold great the show was still airing on various channels across the globe and my little nephew always wanted to watch Batman Beyond instead of Brave and the bold....


If the actual Batman villains didn't sell well enough, then the Batman Beyond villains would have been even worse.


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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:56 pm 
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j1h15233 wrote:

If the actual Batman villains didn't sell well enough, then the Batman Beyond villains would have been even worse.


Again, we never had proper Return of the Joker figures. Ever. The Matty Bats pack had repeat characters. Cool as heck repeat characters, but repeats nonetheless. A ROTJ set may not have sold gangbusters, but it sure would have garnered the attention of each and every JLU and Batman Beyond fan. Return of the Joker is right up there with the best of the Timm-Verse storylines, and the market has been starved for toys based on the film since forever. And the Joker would have simply needed a new headsculpt slapped atop a repainted JLU body.

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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:14 pm 
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Only really if you count old Bruce Wayne.

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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:12 pm 
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Howard the Duck wrote:
j1h15233 wrote:

If the actual Batman villains didn't sell well enough, then the Batman Beyond villains would have been even worse.


Again, we never had proper Return of the Joker figures. Ever. The Matty Bats pack had repeat characters. Cool as heck repeat characters, but repeats nonetheless. A ROTJ set may not have sold gangbusters, but it sure would have garnered the attention of each and every JLU and Batman Beyond fan. Return of the Joker is right up there with the best of the Timm-Verse storylines, and the market has been starved for toys based on the film since forever. And the Joker would have simply needed a new headsculpt slapped atop a repainted JLU body.


We all know I'm one of the biggest JLU fans here, but ONE offering for 3 years sold more than the others and that was Lobo. Return of the Joker is great but JLU figs from the movie would not have sold any better than anything else they offered.


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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
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You are not the biggest of JLU fans. We all like it the same.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:45 pm 
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That's better :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Would a Return of the Joker Figure Set have been Profita
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:41 am 
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A Return of the Joker set would've done great at retail. Hell... all the JLU Batman stuff (i.e. BTAS, TNBA & Batman Beyond) did great at retail!!! The Gray Ghost pack sold well, as did the Penguin/Batgirl/Nightwing pack. Even the Terry McGinnis Wave 9 singles reissue sold well. (Most of the time, it was the first single to sell through!)

So this would've been a great set, and one that I was personally advocating (on account of its "Once and Future Thing" ties.) But once Mattel screwed up the 6 pack SKU with its "Because Moms demanded it" Eclipso-Pack; it was all a moot point.

As far as Granny Goodness goes... I think people are overestimating her appeal. Really, really, ridiculously overestimating her appeal. Sorry guys, but old fat woman with a creepy man's voice, is kinda in the same vein as Amanda Waller in terms of "broad market appeal". And I just don't see her doing better than Kalibak, which was a great figure; but didn't do well (according to Mattel.)

So yeah...

In the "pie in the sky"/pipe dream/best case scenario that JLU were to do well these coming months; I still don't see Mattel making a Granny Goodness or Batman Beyond set.

IF... if... the remaining unproduced JLU figures were to selll through instantly, more than likely I see them offering the unproduced Young Justice and Green Lantern Animated figures first.

You know, on account that in their eyes, JLU & Young Justice are basically the same crap.
(Or at least that's what they've been implying with their Monthly Q&A's.)

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