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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:38 am 
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Well, that was fun. Turns out voters actually DISLIKE campaigns based on lies, racism, and hate. Who knew?



Uhhh Obama won.


The funniest part here is the popular vote being what it was. The electoral college is a sham, always has been. But America isn't fooled. And it's not like the overwhelming majority support our current president (or the guy he was running against). Pathetic either way if you ask me.

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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:53 am 
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You know it's funny that no matter how politically seperate we are, we can still mutually have a love of action figures, toys, comics, movies and other "stuff." Maybe there is hope for us...


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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
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You know it's funny that no matter how politically seperate we are, we can still mutually have a love of action figures, toys, comics, movies and other "stuff." Maybe there is hope for us...


LOL...awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
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The republicans put up their worst candidate in decades. If they get someone with a decent pulse and don't wait till the last minute to campaign, last night is completely different.
And yet Romney was almost literally the best candidate the Repubs ran out of am embarrassing clown car. Well, Huntsman was awesome (I could have actually voted for him) but he was a non-starter due to being non-extreme. Who do the Repubs have in 2016? Cristie? Already branded a traitor by the base and couldn't win the primary. Jeb? Bush's name is STILL toxic. Huckabee? I'm actually a little nervous about Huck but a sleazy Dem candidate could come up with some devastating Willie Horton style ads due to those pardons. Dems have some nice candidates waiting in the wings (I would LOVE Brian Swietzer as a general election candidate but Kristen Gillibrand would be sweet too) but unless the Republicans are smart enough to nominate Huntsman they are in trouble. You want a better candidate in 2016? Stop supporting extremists.
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The funniest part here is the popular vote being what it was. The electoral college is a sham, always has been. But America isn't fooled. And it's not like the overwhelming majority support our current president (or the guy he was running against). Pathetic either way if you ask me.

Umm, Obama almost certainly WON the popular vote after the West Coast ballots are counted. Are you saying because it was closer than 2008 that Romney should have gotten in anyways? WTF?
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Uhhh Obama won.

Ian you have ALWAYS lived in an alternate universe where white people are oppressed minorities and the president is a socialist rather than a Democrat. In fact, people of color actually HEARD those dogwhistles (like socialist) you claim don't exist and decided to vote for their best interests. Unless you are a guy who makes over $250,000 a year scalping toys you weren't smart enough to do so. And yes, we know what you REALLY mean when you call the President a socialist. You're not fooling anyone. Good thing I never take any of your worthless opinions seriously.

On another note, you guys see the video of Rove last night arguing with Fox News over when they called Ohio for Obama? He looked like the guy who lost the Mob's money. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:47 am 
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As a Democrat in New Jersey... if Chris Christie runs in 2016... I could see myself voting for him. I haven't agreed with everything he has done here in NJ but that man's head is in the right place and probably the only good thing the Republicans have going for them right now. They should let his praise of Obama go, the man was being what he is... a Politician and playing the game when his state was in need of some serious aid from the Government.

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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:56 am 
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The republicans put up their worst candidate in decades. If they get someone with a decent pulse and don't wait till the last minute to campaign, last night is completely different.
And yet Romney was almost literally the best candidate the Repubs ran out of am embarrassing clown car. Well, Huntsman was awesome (I could have actually voted for him) but he was a non-starter due to being non-extreme. Who do the Repubs have in 2016? Cristie? Already branded a traitor by the base and couldn't win the primary. Jeb? Bush's name is STILL toxic. Huckabee? I'm actually a little nervous about Huck but a sleazy Dem candidate could come up with some devastating Willie Horton style ads due to those pardons. Dems have some nice candidates waiting in the wings (I would LOVE Brian Swietzer as a general election candidate but Kristen Gillibrand would be sweet too) but unless the Republicans are smart enough to nominate Huntsman they are in trouble. You want a better candidate in 2016? Stop supporting extremists.
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The funniest part here is the popular vote being what it was. The electoral college is a sham, always has been. But America isn't fooled. And it's not like the overwhelming majority support our current president (or the guy he was running against). Pathetic either way if you ask me.

Umm, Obama almost certainly WON the popular vote after the West Coast ballots are counted. Are you saying because it was closer than 2008 that Romney should have gotten in anyways? WTF?
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Uhhh Obama won.

Ian you have ALWAYS lived in an alternate universe where white people are oppressed minorities and the president is a socialist rather than a Democrat. In fact, people of color actually HEARD those dogwhistles (like socialist) you claim don't exist and decided to vote for their best interests. Unless you are a guy who makes over $250,000 a year scalping toys you weren't smart enough to do so. And yes, we know what you REALLY mean when you call the President a socialist. You're not fooling anyone. Good thing I never take any of your worthless opinions seriously.

On another note, you guys see the video of Rove last night arguing with Fox News over when they called Ohio for Obama? He looked like the guy who lost the Mob's money. :D


Please go back and re-read what I said. I never said Romney should've won the election because he "almost won" the popular vote. I'm saying democrats shouldn't act like this is some landslide victory because he didn't win the popular vote by much. Having 50.1% of the populations support isn't something to brag about (it might be a tad higher now, but my point still stands).

If the republicans are smart they'll get a guy like Mitch Daniels to run (although I can't stand him). Someone of that mold.

At least Obama pulled out the popular vote, and we didn't get a 2000 repeat (just opposite party winning). I think I may never have voted again. From the first time I learned what the electoral college was in elementary school to now...I think it's one of the biggest shams in politics. It must really stink to live in a state like California, Texas, Illinois...etc, and know your vote doesn't count if you are of one party.

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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
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And for the record, ian...I dislike Romney as much as I dislike Obama. This isn't a Democrat vs Republican thing for me. I don't really have any party ties (although I used to be a registered democrat). I vote for who I think will do the better job out of the candidates that have a legit opportunity to actually win an election.

I just can't get behind what Obama is doing and has done. I think he's the worst President we've ever had. And if Romney had won, maybe he wouldn't have been any better.

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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:03 am 
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The bottom line here is that the best people for this job don't won't it. We'll always have sub par people in office.


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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:04 am 
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Frankly, I dont see now (and haven't in quite a few elections to be honest) a candidate that I feel will ever really do much of anything. At all.

Like was stated earlier, we're in a deadlock.

And we always will be in a state of stagnation so long as we adhere to a 2 party system.

Even the best candidate will be so counterbalanced by the system and those already in place or coming up at the same time, that ultimately, we will end up right back where we start.

I find it truly difficult to vote. I hate picking "the lesser of two evils". And that is all that I see offered, generally.

Now, give me someone that is truly forward thinking, willing to stand up to the Parties, and will roll up his sleeves and focus on the true problems underlying causes (and not just the media's spin on them, or the PR presentation of them) and I'll be first in line.

As it is now, voting is a chore. A hassle. ... and ultimately one I'd rather do without.

But, yeah, I voted.

Hooray for me :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
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Now, give me someone that is truly forward thinking, willing to stand up to the Parties, and will roll up his sleeves and focus on the true problems underlying causes (and not just the media's spin on them, or the PR presentation of them) and I'll be first in line.


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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
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That issue of Howard the Duck is classy!

And the Action Comics Annual makes me imagine Donald Trump asking to see the flight recorder from the Birthing Matrix... as in that issue they determine that since, the Matrix acted like an artificial womb and opened as soon as Ma Kent touched it that Superman was 'born' on American soil...

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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:20 pm 
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Ian you have ALWAYS lived in an alternate universe where white people are oppressed minorities and the president is a socialist rather than a Democrat. In fact, people of color actually HEARD those dogwhistles (like socialist) you claim don't exist and decided to vote for their best interests. Unless you are a guy who makes over $250,000 a year scalping toys you weren't smart enough to do so. And yes, we know what you REALLY mean when you call the President a socialist. You're not fooling anyone. Good thing I never take any of your worthless opinions seriously.

On another note, you guys see the video of Rove last night arguing with Fox News over when they called Ohio for Obama? He looked like the guy who lost the Mob's money. :D


And yet you felt the need to respond to my comment :) How cute for someone who doesn't care what I have to say. Anyway sweet, I thought alternate universes only existed in comic books and cartoons. Score.

My comment was directed mainly towards jokers like you who throw the race card down anytime someone "disagrees" with your view. Don't agree with same sex marriage. Obviously you're a bigot. Won't vote for a black man because you disagree with his politics. You're a racist. I'm heard this song and dance before and it's just a left wing tactic of insults. I compare it to a child throwing poop against the wall to see if it will stick. Sadly an adult has to come by sooner or later and clean up the mess the child made. Sound familiar?

I'm not a big fan of Romney either but he was certainly better in my eyes than the alternative. Now Obama has nothing to lose so we'll see his real agenda the next 4 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Did you vote today?
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The bottom line here is that the best people for this job don't won't it. We'll always have sub par people in office.



Yep. It's really sad too.

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I just can't get behind what Obama is doing and has done. I think he's the worst President we've ever had.

Worse than George W. Bush? That's silly. Nothing like 9/11 happened on Obama's watch, he got Bin Laden, he passed healthcare reform, and he didn't lie us into a war that he paid on a credit card to China, etc. Yeah, he hasn't cleaned up the mess Bush left yet. But frankly, I don't think anyone could have in four years. Democrats have always said the mess Bush left the country in would take decades to clean up so I'm unsurprised that Obama didn't do it in four. He's done an amazing job so far with the hand he was dealt. I had originally expected whoever won in 2008, whether it was McCain or Obama, would be a one-term President because they'd be saddled with the blame of not cleaning up after Bush fast enough. I didn't give the country enough credit. As Chris Rock joked, "Obama didn't cure cancer fast enough! I'm voting for cancer!"

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My comment was directed mainly towards jokers like you who throw the race card down anytime someone "disagrees" with your view. Don't agree with same sex marriage. Obviously you're a bigot. Won't vote for a black man because you disagree with his politics. You're a racist. I'm heard this song and dance before and it's just a left wing tactic of insults. I compare it to a child throwing poop against the wall to see if it will stick. Sadly an adult has to come by sooner or later and clean up the mess the child made. Sound familiar?

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I'm not a big fan of Romney either but he was certainly better in my eyes than the alternative. Now Obama has nothing to lose so we'll see his real agenda the next 4 years.
This is one conspiracy theory I will never understand. Supposedly Obama was going to take away all of our guns and put us into liberal reeducation camps after 2008. Since they didn't happen, his nefarious agenda will take place in his second term. If this were true, don't you think it would make more sense for Obama to do all of the horrible things Repubs say he's gonna do in his first term since he didn't KNOW if he was going to get reelected or not? History tells us that almost all two term Presidents get their major acheivements done in their first terms and are usually lame ducks in the second. If I was a conservative, I wouldn't be worried at all.

By the way, I don't expect jokers like YOU to do a mea culpa once the world doesn't end in 2016. None of the horrible things you predicted would happen in 2008 did and you still can't admit you were wrong. You never will.

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I changed my mind. No reason to argue with someone like this.


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